So where does that leave us? Proxies. Or sculpting. Or a combination of the two. I've gone for the last. While 40K Slann are tough to come by, there are other other anthropomorphic frogs out there. Fantasy frogmen seem to have been rather popular in a way that frogs in space never were. Citadel made quite a lot and may still make some in fantasy plastics, Reaper makes at least a few, and Grenadier made some at the very least. There were doubtless others. (Maybe RP made some, or Rafm.) I chose to start with the Grenadier sculpts. An Italian company called Mirliton Miniatures has them as a part of their Lost Lizardmen range and I found them at a reasonable-ish price.
There were four miniatures in the pack in three poses: two different spearmen and two copies of a swordsman. I started with the spearman who was holding his spear upright. I decided I'd make him a standard bearer and to that end cut off the top half of his spear and replaced it with a banner pole fabricated from styrene. Of course, what to use as a space slann banner was something of a problem. The space slann draw heavily on Meso-American art, so that seemed a logical place to turn. Genuine Aztec standards appear to have been a carved staff with some dangly bits at the end, perhaps feathers. I decided I'd go with a sort of shield hanging from a stick approach. I don't know that this is terribly authentic, but it's at least in keeping with the style and these are slann, not Aztecs, so they needn't be precisely the same. Next to the frogman you can see my first crude attempt at a shield curing on the benchtop.
The second attempt was a marked improvement, but still not quite where I wanted it. You can see some clear common elements between the two: both have a row of small circular detail around the rim of the shield, surrounding a row of interlace patterns I took from a Quetzalcoatl relief. Both also have a space in the middle. I had a vague idea that perhaps I could fill the space, but it also seemed possible that the shield could be a sun symbol needing no center detail.
One small flash of insight I had while making these was the realization that things out of scale often look quite different. My WWII naval readers will know that I squash cast small repeated details. I decided that a quick way to busy the shields up was with medium AA molds. They leave the gun surrounded by flash, which builds into a large circular ridge at the edges. To make the molds I press a ball of green stuff (kneadtite) onto the end of a stick, wet it, and push it down onto the master. Even the best sculpted 1/2400 AA guns are really just vague linear shapes. You wouldn't recognize them as guns if you didn't know that's what they were in the first place. Given all of that, if you leave them surrounded by flash they look more like flower petals than guns. (Albeit flower petals with little lines in the middle.) Bingo! That's a detail I can use.
In addition to the shield, I also wanted some small items to hang at the ends of the cross arms. I used debris I had sitting about for one of them (another low relief 1/2400 AA gun) but I wanted feathers. These I sculpted from still more green stuff. For the more detailed feather I actually did both sides separately. After the first dried I flipped it, added more green stuff, and sculpted the back. I'm still learning the ways of keadtite, so this is just starter grade stuff, but for a first ever feather I'm fairly pleased.
To the right and above the feather, just below two pieces of sprue that are about to become a replacement gun for a space monkey, you can see a low relief Aztec jaguar head. That was my next step. It was too big to fit in my second shield, so I had to make yet another. Below is my third, and hopefully final attempt curing on the marble where I created it. One more innovation was adding the chain BEFORE letting it cure. Not sure why I didn't think of that earlier.
While frog one's details were curing I set about making frog two. The first step was removing his right arm, which was quickly accomplished by nibbling it off with diagonal cutters. Second was adding a helmet. I found a lovely piece of suggestive debris (actually bottom part of the yoke from a 1/48 WWII bomber) and incorporated it as a crest. I then fashioned a new pommel for the sword. (Well, refashioned. I did the pommel first, but kept messing it up while I did the helm, so I just pulled it off and redid it after.) Finally, I glued in wire to serve as an armature for the missing limb.
That accomplished, I glued the cured details to frog one's flagpole.
Of course no space frog warrior is complete without a weapon. Our standard bearer has his holstered behind him. The gun is a collection of debris from 1/2400 modeling, sprue, and kneadtite. For fun and practice I also gave him a belt and a pack. It lends just that much more of an oldhammer feel.
And there he stands for present. Hopefully by the end of the afternoon he'll be enough cured I can add the shield and begin painting. Check back. And thanks for joining me.
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Note: To see the outcome of this project, please take a peek at Slan Craft II.
Great GS work. I'm a bit of a hack when it comes to sculpting, so I'm really impressed when I see people who can...even though you said you've just started yourself too :)
Those original Citadel Slann are stupid expensive if you ask me. For pretty boringly posed minis (compared to what they were producing at the same time) they sure do fetch a high price.
It's a shame about the Slann really, they had an awesome background story, but ordinary looking minis to support them......a missed opportunity for GW I reckon.
I would never have called your sculpting in the least hackish. In fact, I pointed out some of your recent ork conversions to a friend recently and he failed to recognize they were conversions. I feel like a GS hack. It's not an easy material to work with, but it does seem to have its uses.ReplyDelete
See, boring poses or no I find I rather like the miniatures. They were so very different from everything else in the Citadel catalogue. And the Aztec art is interesting to me now in a way it wasn't when I was fifteen.
That said, thank you for the compliment. Thank you very much indeed.
I can assure you that no GS was harmed in the process of converting that space ork :)ReplyDelete
I very rarely use it, in fact, I think I've had the same strip of it sitting in my draw for well over a decade....with about 9/10th's of it still unused! :)
Anywho, I'm liking your work.
I've also had my GS for about ten years. Of course I bought the giant sticks rather than the strip, since the sticks are much less expensive and keep a little better, so that's not so unusual.ReplyDelete
So what do you use, if I may ask? I'm always on the lookout for new materials. I used to use signal green putty and auto body spot putty. I've considered sculpy, but I suspect you'd have to heat it away from the miniature and then glue it on. (Don't immediately recall the curing temperature, but plastics don't take heat well and lead melts at a surprisingly low temperature. Not sure about tin.)
Well, I don't really "sculpt" anything to tell you the truth. I mainly just kitbash or fill in gaps to do conversions.ReplyDelete
As an example, for that space ork, I used bits of plastic, other mini parts & a bit of repositioning to get the desired effect. I try to steer well clear of anything that requires sculpting. If I can make a part, rape a part off of something else.....then I'll do that instead of going down the dreaded sculpting route.
There is one thing that I've been using for a couple of years now though that you may find a use for? I've found acrylic gap filler (the stuff you use for bathroom repairs) works fine for filling in gaps on minis, model work etc.
It's not the easiest thing in the world to work with on small models, but I just load it into a syringe & apply it that way. The benefits of using this stuff is that it's dirt cheap, dries relatively quickly, dries hard enough for gaming purposes, can be molded into shape easily & if applied with a syringe you can even get that "welded" look.
I used this stuff on my Walker, on the space ork & a while bunch of other little projects over the last few years.
I could crap on about modelling stuff for ages, so I better stop there or I'll use up all the typing space on your blog & there won't be any room left for anyone else :)
Hope this helped.
Creative and very nice putty-pushing going on here at the work bench. Keep it up.ReplyDelete
With luck, he will be another very fine frog. Smaller, but just as deadly. Thank you Jay. I always appreciate the advice and support.